From Manipur: An Open Letter to Gen Bakshi, Arnab Goswami and Indian People

Chinglen Khshetrimayum

Hello Sir,

My name is Chinglen Kshetrimayum, I am from Manipur and I am not a threat to anyone. I studied in Sainik School Imphal for 5 years and I have hoisted the Indian flag. I used to proudly sing our national anthem (even though there is nothing about Manipur or North-east in our national anthem). Once when we were in 9th standard, we were having assembly and it was announced that we can go for Diwali vacation just after the assembly. So we were very happy and at the end when we sang national anthem, we sang very loudly. My father who was waiting outside the school gate, was surprised to hear students singing so loudly and beautifully ask me is there any good news? I said we can go home now itself. So he was also proud and I was also proud. When I was in Manipur, I thought I was an Indian. After I came out from Manipur to other parts of India, I realized I am less Indian. Suddenly my very existence became a threat to them. They are ready to wipe me out. But the thing is, I, happened to be born in a place that lie in the political map of India so, what I thought was I am also an Indian.

Arnab LogicThat’s when I slowly started realizing that there are certain types of people who doesn’t like diversity. They think whoever is different from them whether it is their food habits, dressing sense, hair style, or looks is a threat to them. They want only certain types of things to be followed. They think that only their identity should be accepted.

Mr. Gen Bakshi, in Manipur University, there is something much more than your national flag. There is an Assam Rifles camp inside the university campus. So don’t worry, you people are winning. There are also two Assam Rifles camps on both the side of my town. So I am pretty much under your control.

Well I will tell you something. You all are animals. Animals who live in jungle. Jungle where the only rule is “might is right”. The only reason you are putting laws like AFSPA in north-east or Kashmir is just because you are strong. Tell me Gen Bakshi, if you say that the situation is not right to remove AFSPA, then when is the right situation going to come. Is it going to come today, or tomorrow or after 100 years? I don’t think you have answer for that. So tell me, what according to you is “the right situation”? Is it killing all the men so that you can rape every women?

You cried in the debate and Smriti Irani felt sad and call you. What about a lady who had been fasting for more than 15 years simply asking for the AFSPA to be remove-an act that gave the armed forces the right to kill anyone on mere suspicion and doesn’t even give the people right to go to the court. The reason why people are against Indian flag is because you identify yourselves with the Indian flag and proud to be an Indian whereas when we identify ourselves as Indian we get racist comments. So naturally we feel bad and you also know that we feel bad, so to keep us under your control you put a law called AFSPA. Sir, if you are against British people for passing laws like Armed Forces Special Power Ordinance, then why are you putting that law, that is more dangerous than the one Britisher put against you, against us. And you expect us to keep quiet. Every human being will react against that.

And when we react against you, you branded us as terrorist. That’s why I say you all are animals. Nothing less than animals, who used only physical power to keep people under control. If you say that, raising voice against Indian army or national flag is anti-india, then I think the whole Manipur and Kashmir is anti-india. If so then, what the hell is Indian army doing in the land of Manipuris and Kashmiris and what is Manipur and Kashmir doing in the political map of India?

Mr. Arnab Goswami, you host a debate and ask a “yes” or “no” question to the people and you want only “yes”. If you want only “yes” then what’s the point of hosting that debate at the first place.

I don’t believe in giving long speech or making people listen only to me. So I will wait for your reply and I will give my views again.

From

A Human Being

  • nani

    what do you want to say ? seriously here

  • Ratin Asthana

    Well, I am from UP and when I go to Mumbai people call me ‘UP waala’ . SOME Mumbaikars beat poor ‘UP waalas’ saying that they are taking away the jobs of locals. When I go to South India, people call me North Indian and talk in their local language to keep me out of their discussion. Autowaalas would harass us because we are ‘North’ Indians. I look different from people down south. After having stated all this, they are still my Indian brethren. And the real power of India has only started to emerge now – when someone from North-East goes to Delhi or Bangalore, when people migrate for work and co-mingle. That fosters competition and brings the best talent to the fore. Earlier we used to live in cocoons. Now we merge. Understand that wherever you go you are becoming a competition to the locals but its good ‘overall’ for India. That’s how it should be. Also, don’t expect to have a Mumbai in every state of India. There is only one New York in US. As for AFSPA, I agree that an indefinite imposition of such a law needs to be debated. But within the confines of Indian democracy and constitution. And I support the military rule in Kashmir. India encompasses many different identities but your identity cannot exist outside the Indian state. The integrity and sovereignty of India should be protected at all costs. Within the confines of Indian state, people can disgree as much as they want.

    • uday

      We south Indians don’t like the brutal attitude of North indians and especially I don’t like people who call Bangalore instead of BengaLuru even though it is officially declared by the government.

      • Surojit Ghosh

        I also feel the same when some south indian folk says its still Calcutta to me rather than Kolkata.

      • monk

        wats in a name…. and wat brutality r we talking abt..

      • Joseph Jose

        It fucking took more than 60 years to change the name…. the government is so smart because it has people like u

      • Shub Ham

        You don’t like people because they don’t spell a name, the way you like it? Ignore the oficial declaration. Well, such a strong reason. Have you ever heard a North Indian despise a South Indian because you spell h as EH and m as yum? No. I will give you my example. I was a north Indian, studying at MIT Manipal, Karnataka. And even though we North Indians were a majority there, we fondly called our college YuMIT, as the locals said it. We didn’t begin ‘disliking’ people because they didn’t speak as we did. Raise the standards of your thinking man. I have seen this problem in many parts of South India be it the hostility towards North Indians or the discrimination. Grow up. Its because of people of your standards and thinking that such posts about racial discrimination come up everyday.

      • Sunil Kumar Bisoyi

        I read a news a few years back that there was an entire village killed (more than 300 people) just because the groom married a higher caste girl. Do you think that is not violence? You think you are civilized but kill people for which family they were born in? And bribe the grooms for marrying your daughters? And somehow you score high in moral grounds do you?

  • Moral of the story for everyone is…..if you go around in the little fish bowl forever…you will get the same results.Its time to take hard decisions.

  • m.murli

    I doubt either Gen.Bakshi or Arnab Goswami would care to reply to your open letter as it doesn’t warrant one. Though a Manipuri, your espousing the cause of Kashmir also clearly establishes your Leftist leanings which is what your friends from JNU have been crying hoarse about and which is what has prompted you to write this misguided open letter. You very conveniently forgets the fact that North eastern regions have been ignored by the Cong. govts. since the last 67 years and you happily tolerated it (Nehru used to come only for bamboo dancing photo-ops) but found your voice only now when our PM Modi is making all efforts to develop the road and rail connectivity as well as communication infrastructure to promote the entire North east as a center of tourist attraction and organic farming. Your grouse that you are seen differently when you go to other parts of the country is childish and myopic as this is a problem faced by almost every Indians when they go to other states. That doesn’t provoke all Indians to take up arms against our nation or talk of breaking away from the Union. Suffice it to say that if you do not recognize your friend from the foe then you are condemned to live a life of regret whereas AFSPA will remain as long as insurgency remain.

    • himanshu

      For your kind information. Indian railways is spending 60% of construction budget in north east for last 10 years. And then we didn’t had modi govt. Similar is the case for roadways. Every thing need not be credited to modi govt. Sharmila mam is fasting from the time of Congress govt. So it has not just started. Our fellow indians have some problem. So it should not be linked with particular govt.

      • m.murli

        Oh ! Thank you so much for these information which I never knew about ! Please I would like you to now enlighten me with details of how you arrived at these 60% spending figure since last 10 years. Instead of giving sweeping vague figures please explain the reasons for the backwardness, the disillusionment of the Northeast people, why these region has been ignored since the last 67 years by the Congress Govt. and what are the reasons which has given rise to insurgency in these states and who is responsible for it !

        • himanshu

          I work for construction department of indian railways, thats how i know the figure. I don’t support congress by the way. They might have done blunders in governance. I just wanted to point out that it’s not the modi govt who had taken initiative for northeast region.

          • m.murli

            “might have done blunder” !! why do you find it so difficult to accept the non governance of the Congress Govt. since the last 67 years which has led to the seclusion of this region and anger among’st the people ! Why do you find it so difficult to appreciate the present Govt.’s efforts to open up the region to integrate with the rest of the country after it’s neglect since so many years ! Are you saying that AFSPA should be taken away and the insurgents given a free hand to break up the nation ! I don’t provide my e.mail ID on open platforms. You may forward the link to the source of your info on this platform itself.

  • DrMuhammad Mukhtar Alam

    Some needs to organise India Unity March for Transitioning to Post carbon and Post Nuclear age.We need to walk together assisting each other eliminating alienation of all messengers, prophets, Imams and avataars. RSS needs to dump alienation of Jesus PBUH and prophet Muhammad PBUH and HF. Usurpers of identity of spokesperson of God need to connect to the Saguna of our Age for obeying to Nirguna. The alienation of prophets and messengers from Middle East,is the root cause of distress for the nation. Ekatma is to be built NOT through alienation but through eliminating recognition deficit for the chain of AKSHAR Puroshottam decreed for uniting humanity.RSS needs to accept the work of Prof.Mohan Prakash Upadhyay recognizing prophet Muhammad PBUH and HF as the Dasham Avataar now existing as AKSHAR Puroshottam and AKHAND JYOTI of God /Ishwar/Allah SwT, the Nirguna in the person of Kareem Shah Al Hussaini. Waiting for KALKI avataar and Imam Mahdi makes some usurp the identity of AKSHAR Puroshottam/ Adhinayak generating hatred in the name of religion which is one decreed for all. Peace/Shanti/Islam through unity in recognition,allegiance and obedience of Akshar Puroshottam/ Imam e Mubeen ,Akhand Jyoti of God existiing as Light of God here for entire humanity. Congnitive journey for recognition of Akshar Puroshottam of our age is important for all in order to unite for peace. Inclusive nation education need to have this as an essential element for uniting India for moving together and working together for generating happiness, peace, dignity and security for all eliminating usurpation of rights. We need to to get ourselves educated on this for national unity and then for educating humanity on this for securing inclusive nations and neighborhoods globally.

  • Vivek Chaudhary

    Tell your brothers not to go against state and surrender their guns and participate in democratic structure.this will good for all.if want so freedom from Indian state better leave the country,no one give u a shit.your comrade attacked the very own brothers who are working in Manipur govt. Army is not meant to defend internally,u all have created circumstances for afspa. You think u can kill army personals and they will not retaliate? Now if they were raped then what the purpose of nude protest? Obviously they have been supported by some vested interest groups and those group feel this is the method to malign the army.
    Any state should not be spared for anti national activities either it is cerntal part ,north,south part or north east part.
    You should work with ur state gov to lift the life of ppl their beside blaming others.

    • Rajen

      You will sing a different tune had your brothers be dragged outside your home and shot without any notice given or an apology. You would sing a different tune if your sisters and mothers are raped by these saviours of the nation and without any excuse given. So do not preach people by force. Understand them and their lives.

  • SuchindranathAiyer

    This was a tradition set by Nehru’s goons in Manipur

    Manipur was a highly cultured “Special District” (Like Coorg) until 1947. It had the first written Constitution in the Sub Continent and was, arguably, even more cultured and Brahmanical than Mysore or Travancore. Nehru posted his Satrap there and began, with Ambedkar, his social engineering legislation which his Christian Satrap imposed with an iron hand while finding time away from his womanizing rape and plunder. Ever since, every family in Manipur has had at least one person under arms and underground. Just one small fractal of a nation in a perpetual civil war created by India’s founding “architects”. Notably, Ambedkar and Nehru. All of India’s seething unrest both kinetic and potential can be traced back to India’s grotesque “Animal Farm” Constitution and “Social Engineering” Laws that enforced a British day dream that Britain, itself, dare not have attempted in Britain, let alone India.. The violence under the surface of India, waiting to break out, is of massive proportions.

    The South West and North East of India that had not been under Moslem tyranny like “Hindi” India were largely matriarchal and matrilineal The North East, the Dandakaranya and the Western Ghats were also the free preserves of the tribals who tended to and preserved nature wile enjoying the rights to free thorough fare and foraging. This was recognized and respected by the law giving Brahmins of Aryavarta since the days of Bharatha, with insignificant interference from either the Moslems or the British. The South West came into a close relationship with Brahmanism and gave up their tribal ways since the days when Parashurama and his disciples came and settled here after Parashurama received the Tripura Rahasya and Shrividya Deeksha from Dattareya at Kamakhya (present day Assam) long before the rest of South India, came to accept Brahmin Law in the hey days of the earlier Pandyan Empire that covered most of South India with fortified trading posts and maritime trade that stretched to Rome in the West and to Vietnam in the East. In more recent History the brutal Islamic rape, plunder and genocide in the South led to the formation of the Vijayanagar Empire that drew most of South India closer together under Brahmin Law and the Dharma of the Shankaracharyas of Shringeri that continued in former Vijayanagar Vice Regalities such as Travancore and Mysore until the Indian Republic dismantled law, order, infrastructure, justice and governance in these unfortunate parts.

    It is India’s grotesque PANGOLIN dispensation and British born Constitution and laws that eradicated the matrilineal system in the South West and North East of India, turned women into chattels and deprived the tribals of their hereditary right of thorough fare and foraging in the forests of the Western Ghats, Himalayas and the Dandakaranya in 1959. This is the same year that saw the eradication of Brahmanism and the confiscation of the Commonwealth of the descendants of those who were called “Hindu” (i.e. those who are not the “Din e Kitabi” or “People of the Book”) by the British prior to 1921 including their temples, educational institutions, grazing and agricultural lands, treasure, irrigation tanks and even their religious freedoms. (PANGOLIN = Periyar-Ambedkar-Nehru-Gandhi-Imported Religions-Communist). It is the arrest,incarceration and sexual violation of tribals exercising their ancestral rights by Forest Officers, Police and “Government” under the PANGOLIN laws of India that saw both the birth of the Naxalite-Maoist (or violent Communist) Movement in the Dandakaranya and the insurgencies of the North East. The Western Ghats and the Himalayan foothills have been less rebellious owing to the long relationship here with over arching Brahmanism that has been systematically eradicated by the PANGOLINs since 1947 and is being reflected in sporadic exhibitions of Communist (Naxal/Maoist or whatever) violence. The back drop to all this is that “Hinduism” is neither a religion nor a way of life. It is a defunct nationality comprising myriad religions united, loosely and consensually, by Aryan (Brahmin) law that has been dismantled systematically since 1947. Under the great and unique freedoms of Brahmanism, almost every temple represented a unique religion and culture as did every nomadic sub-tribe.,

    Basically the “Divide to rule” and “Keep the natives subservient” Government of India Act (1935) condemned India to a perpetual state of civil war when it was plagiarized into the Indian Constitution in 1949 with elements borrowed from George Orwell’s “Animal Farm” being added to it ad nauseam. India needs to be vary of the Periyar-Ambedekar-Nehru-Gandhi-Imported Religions-Communist (PANGOLIN) Consensus that has looted, plundered, raped and massacred it since 1947 by means of the “Reservations-Corruption Raj” that the Pangolins created and maintained. This is why India has been so weakened from the Great Power that it was in 1957 to below Sub-Saharan Africa (UNDP – 2015) at 135 out of 172 countries in Human and Social Development and 143 out of 172 countries in internal peace and stability. Before this great and growing internal threat begotten by India’s Constitution and charlatan Cambridge, Columbia, Elphinstone, Presidency, St. Joseph’s, St. Stephen’s, Madras Christian, Loyola educated “founding fathers” who knew less about Indian History, cultures, traditions, religions and lives than their British over lords, that resolves itself into Blue, Green, Red and White belts that are crushing the country for their personal pleasure, pelf, perpetuation and perversions, all other threats become “lesser evils”.

  • don daniel

    My dearest fellow countryman and brother(Human Being),Firstly ,I will begin by apologising for the treatment meted out to you and our brothers and sisters from the north east by a few idiotic and stupid minded Indian jabronis.It is indeed embarrassing,and painful.n those people need to be dealt with in the harshest possible manner.and they will be soon enough.But please don’t generalise this issue with all Indians and deny your Indianness .Its only thing that holds us together.and its our Identity.its who we are.So in any way you are just as Indian as I am.So please don’t hate our motherland ,just becoz of a few crazy dick heads.Just like any other country in the world, India may have lot of shortcomings but that does not justify you act of defiance.
    I realize very well that in Manipur and kashmir our Army has been facing a lot of cases of human right violations.But please understand that the Military court is looking in to every issue possible.it will definitly look in to every possible issue and deliver justice,but it will take time.nothing is gonna happen overnight.
    No defense organisation in the world is perfect. Armed forces of every country in the world have their own loopholes.
    you mentioned Afspa is a disastrous module of operation.you may be right.but when we say that our Army need to stay out of our states,then its could lead to drastic ramifications.
    Our brothers from the Jammu n kashmir,who repeatedly demand the ouster of the Indian Armed force from the valley generally have a separatist attitude from the state of India.you too seems to be voicing the same issue with Manipur.
    but the day Indian Army steps out of this states,you see nothing but kios and nothing will help you to make for the disaster that you may face after the army is out of the territory.
    the Indian Army is one of the most disciplined in the world.but just as i said there are loophole in every system, we need to be more calculative n careful about the choice of words.

  • Rajen

    For those people who still justify these horrendous acts sanctioned by the Indian state ” You will sing a different tune had your brothers be dragged outside your home and shot without any notice given or an apology. You would sing a different tune if your sisters and mothers are raped by these saviours of the nation and without any excuse given. So do not preach people by force. Understand them and their lives.”

    • raj

      Stop participating in antinational activities to get better treatment. My brothers and sisters won’t be dragged out becoz. our people don’t do them.

      • Rajen

        What do you mean anti-national? Do not use that word to justify any silly argument you have to condone the stupidity of the ones that lead to the suicide. It is an abetment to suicide. Anyone who gets persecuted because of his views is anti-national? Including the farmers who committed suicide due to the wrong agricultural policies of subsequent government? Do not use words so loosely. Tomorrow you may wake up with a surprise when someone drag you out and accuse you of being anti-national for having stood up to the very goondas you are heartily supporting now. Remember that this party has not been voted to power for a lifetime. It will fall as easily as it soars. That is why a political party or ideology also should keep their arrogance in check or fall flat in due time to come.

        • raj

          I am not paranoid. India is the most tolerant country I know of. Mind you, I’ve been to several other countries. Dare to hold commemoration to bin Laden in West and you will come to see the real persecution of a police state or an intolerant society. I know who use the words pluralism, secularism or tolerance loosely. Please don’t teach me.

          • be_sure

            Yeah you r sick!

          • raj

            wow .. you’re a paragon of the so-called tolerance, free speech brigade !

          • Rajen

            My dear, I also have trotted along the globe. The cases you pit are the suspects of terrorism, not students who OPENLY discusses a review on the existing laws on par with the latest practice on capital punishment. Guantanamo Bay victims have been cases of suspects who were trying to plot terrorist acts against the US and the West in general. They had done in covert attempts. These students are discussing out in the open wonder media glare. So do not compare that with the silly argument. And for your information, there was a huge backlash from the society after media pointed out the excess in human rights abuses by NATO soldiers and the government will be closing down that state terror facility. Your torturing minds will serve no purpose – it is destructive. The state has to MEND minds and take along with it through corrective measures – least of all ignoring real barbaric law breakers. When you discuss things in a refined academic manner, the State has no business to see it as sedition. Put your sensibilities in the right tract. Discuss this mater with a French or Swiss citizen and see what they will tell you.

          • raj

            That was no refined academic manner – the slogans, the poster on goddesses. I am also confident that our courts will be just and proportionate. Why don’t you face it in the courts instead of fighting it on public forums ? Collateral damage is unavoidable in an asymmetric war with a faceless enemy with no boundaries and no well defined war zone. By the way you didn’t answer me if you dare to commemorate bin Laden or put posters against certain religious figures anywhere else in the world. Believe me nobody likes to be oppressed, and everybody loves freedom and security for themselves. Is it so difficult to see that people are tired of deceit, hypocrisy and double standards ? Nobody is fool to believe otherwise.

          • Rajen

            How can you compare a Bin laden with Afzal Guru a Dinosaur to a cat? That too, no one challenges the fact that he is GUILTY! Know that. Has anyone said that he is NOT GUILTY? It is just the matter of the death penalty that called for a debate. If that debate is done taking into light all the developments in CIVILISED world. By civilized it does not have to end with America. There are smaller nations that are much higher ideals of democracy than the US. What problem do you have for a debate? Afraid that the deliberations would go over your head?

          • raj

            Forget about me for a moment, what problem do ‘you’ have for a debate ? Say any proof of bin Laden’s or Taliban’s link to 9/11 ? Or Taslima’s or Rushdie’s book or rights of women in Islam ? Why don’t I see it ? Why do I see posters on Durga not other religious figures or ideas ? Why are you selectively worried about free speech ? Can you at least dare to debate on this forum ? Yes, I too see a different evil design in all these protests/vandalism. You answer me this honestly without evasion or our discussion is a dead end.

          • Rajen

            I never held Islamic conservatism to be an ideal for us to follow in case you harbour any thought of me siding with the mullahs. In fact I am very much against the Iranian Revolution to happen in our country albeit with saffron terror! I have doubts if Modi has full control over the party and its affiliates as a whole. He may be just the face to capture power while the ones who hold the reins are sitting somewhere else without any face for the public to identify with. So in case anything goes wrong with the experiment, then Modi will be put to blame. It is precisely to avoid anything as extreme as the Islamic model that we all need to restrain ourselves from going the opposite pole which is one and the same.

          • raj

            Modi represents wishes of the majority Indians within bounds of constitution and courts, however imperfect they are. Modi supporters are not all conservative, but against ‘selective’ free speech, ‘selective’ secularism, ‘selective’ outrages based on caste, religion and class. Let’s first address this ‘selectiveness’ first and then move on to utopian justice.

          • Rajen

            I dont think the majority wants a reign of terror to come into force. The Patiala incident and the Jat stir are examples along many more. As I said in the previous reply, Modi is just an exterior face to what lies behind. The Jews were complacent when fascism (excessive nationalistic chauvinism) surfaced in Germany. It was only later that they woke up to the horror that it was too late for them to resist and so they fell in line. We need to prevent such scenario here.

          • raj

            Common sense and history says there is nothing of the sort happening. How can you compare dinosaur with a cat, with your analogy – Islamic terror and saffron ? Jat stir, Patel are instigated by god-knows-who but do you dare to debate the issue, of creamy layer, like Mohan Bhagwat of RSS did before Bihar elections or you want to suppress such voices ? Do you want selective freedoms on useless and non-existant issues like freedom to eat beef or right to support yakub memon ?

          • Rajen

            The beef is a silly issue. I would have supported it had it been a rare species. If the sentiment is over the Indian breeds, then bring in the European varieties for those who would love to have some animal protein in their diet. A modern nation must be guided by reason and scientific discourses rather than on sentimental grounds. Islamic terror is evident now (reasons are manifold) and we have no reason to follow that path of orthodoxy.

          • raj

            On scientific basis, vegetarianism is the best and cheaper too for a poor nation like us. Less global warming and less cruelty towards animals. You can eat soy and be as strong and healthy. When it comes to palate it’s not so scientific suddenly, right ? So are religious ‘tastes’.

          • Rajen

            I taste beef but did not like it – nothing to do with a religious belief/ However I love pork a lot and a bit of fish too. I am only curtailing it to maintaining my health.

          • Rajen

            For your understanding we do not want to suppress any debate. Only that debate must not be done with a mob mentality. It should be guided with empirical evidences and research findings. No melodrama like the one in Parliament from the Honorable Minister.

          • raj

            Errors are two type – by omission and by commission. Only RSS & BJP dared to discuss reservations, creamy layer, uniform civil code and Wahhabi indoctrination in UP. No other party did because of vote bank politics.
            A modern nation must be guided by reason – with a notion of pressing priorities and most urgent threats to security and important hindrances to advancement of people.

          • Rajen

            In case you have the impression that I am a Muslim sympathizer, that is entirely wrong. There are many issues in that religion – particularly the misogyny that we can never accept. It needs to be amended to what a fair amount of power balance and the reproductive right of women, rights of work and education etc. I do not know why the Muslim women do not fight for that. Why couldn’t a Margaret Sanger or a Gloria Steinem come out from their world. But so are many women suffering under the khap system of our primitive Hindu society. These are issues that the entire society should take note of and not single out anyone. I am an atheist and would love to see people guided by more rational thoughts and actions and no stuck to primitive conventions.

          • raj

            Exactly. Why don’t ‘intellectuals’ discuss how underage girls are married off to Dubai sheiks in Hyderabad for money ? Oh, wait … it is neither fashionable nor anybody have guts for that. Why not fight for other pressing issues like right to kiss on streets or how one khap Panchayat banned mobiles ?

          • Rajen

            Poverty is the real curse here. When a father sells his daughter to rich sheikhs who may be older than themselves, then maybe it is the money that is talking. The answer would lie in overall development of the society – the deprived lot, whether they are dalits, muslims, trials or even brahmins (if they are deprived). I ma very much with you when we talk about real developmental issues.

          • raj

            I have no delusions that media and NGOs don’t work on behalf of vested interests, self-restrain themselves and do not abuse free speech, and not divert public opinion away from real issues like jobs, roads, water, investment on education. Communism fails exactly because it fails to take into account human fallibilities. Utopias don’t exist. The best anyone can do is to act with reason, not get carried away like sheep.

          • raj

            I am all for activism like that of Anna Hazare, not of the idiots from JNU. Hate speech is not free speech. What happened when Anna Hazare last held his meeting in Mumbai ? Nobody turned up, because there is no enough garam masala as in fighting for a particular caste or religion. Was Anna Hazare fighting for a particular sect or everyone ?

          • Rajen

            Give it any name but I think capitalism has reached its glorious phase. Now we are back at the times before the Bolshevik revolution. Maybe there could be a shake up, whether we like it or not as the gap between the rich and poor is far too great now. Even in America it is felt that there should not be unbridled capitalism. Greed must not be so vulgar that you drink champagne while people thirst for a glass of water. Like someone in UK remarked that “The queen wearing a hat worth a million pounds should not teach us about austerity measures”. Now what could the poor old queen do? She is just a symbolic totem for the capitalist set up.

          • raj

            Even Donald Trump agrees with you. Nobody sane believes in unbridled capitalism nowadays and you are just stating the obvious. What has this got to do with JNU protests or Kashmir issue ?

          • Rajen

            The JNU incident has a lot of ramifications for our intellectual strength as a modern thinking nation. Now do not ridicule the intellects. Without them this world would be still in the Middle Ages. If you had observed the development in the Industrial revolution, side by side, literature and the arts flourished. Even though at times it had led to certain madness in the reflection of art – such as the Dada movement led by Tristan Tzara and Marcel Duchamp, it has its effect even today! Have you seen any work of Damien Hirst or Tracey Emin, we know how rebellious modern society is. It was there and will be there. Have you not realized how Ai Wei Wei was idolized by the western world – because he was seen as an underdog suppressed by the mighty state. If we have to integrate with the modern world then we might have to be better than them in intellectual terms. Then only we will command a respect. You know these high brow class – they need an intellectual to put them where they belong! So as a composite society we Indians need to spread our wings in all fields – from the realm of science and technological innovations to philosophies and all the other humanities. We need to beat them in their own game. For that our archaic outlook will not help us. That is the reason why I find that the government went too far by making him a sort of martyr for his modest intellect. We have better things to do for God’s sake (I’m an atheist by the way!)

          • raj

            No, I don’t know much about art but I know about music. I don’t appreciate industrial era art much. It is all packaged for mass consumption, blowing little innovations out of proportions. It is the money and pseudo-intellectualism talking

          • Rajen

            Whatever it be – art, music or literature – the ultimate idea is about self expression. Again here, we need to segregate them into the necessity of having both the classical as well as modern streams thriving under a most liberal patronage. While the Bharatnatyam (along with the other classical or folk dance forms) are important for remembering our heritage and the art which stood the test of time, we also must allow new dance forms to take root and grow. Sadly, Bollywood had not done much research on our folk dance forms today as was done in the past. The result we have what contemporary dance in India had taken shape. I do love the Flamenco or the salsa. But I would not want our dance form to blindly follow them and lose our own originality. I dont know why Bollywood has not taken up the Jhumur and the Bihu, which has an energy and rhythm no less than the bhangra. What I mean to say here is that artistic expressions thrive in a most liberal environment. That is why we have all the major art revolutions in a single city called Paris. During more than a dozen times of my visit there I discovered what art expressions meant to the French. It is another matter that contemporary French people do not know even their own great artists from the past. I knew much more than them lol! We in India have so much opportunity in this line alone, I fear when the puffed up balloon of a cow dismounted due to the offense it created to people. Let me point out that a crucifix submerged in a glass of during of the artist who exhibited was protected although so much of protests came from religious groups. Now if one is a true believer how can a small act like this reduce the entire religion? We must be better than that!

          • Sanket Dash

            Why don’t you discuss them? Why do you want others to discuss what you want?

          • raj

            Because I don’t want to get stabbed. I would rather mind my own business and study, rather than act like JNU idiots who delude themselves as intellectuals and rebels, provoke and waste everyone’s time, distract the nation from real issues, but pussyfooting where courage is actually needed.

          • raj

            If all the presstitutes stick an agenda and won’t show the other side of the story, unfortunately our Smriti Irani had to play HRD minister cum news anchor before all the Indians.

          • Sanket Dash

            What does the word “presstitutes” men? And how do we know only one side of the story was shown? Any empirical evidence?

          • raj

            The posters on goddesses, the quotes from textbooks, the witch hunt of Modi terming riots as genocide when people of all sects were equally affected, the media blackout of Malda riots(not genocide), the funeral procession for Yakub Memon, but the so called intolerance debate based on one off an incident.

          • Rajen

            A few students of political science wanted to have a discussion on the wisdom of a death penalty just as students of fine art may want to know if Chris Ofili’s Virgin Mary was a bit too far or he has a point to make. Bin laden was not a US citizen for your information and many purists might have pointed out the need to have put him to trial just as Saddam Hussein. Leaving that aside, what was the need to arrest the students who in good spirit of academia tried to pose questions that the think tank of the country needed to discuss. What danger t=dis these students pose to the people as compared to the others? Where as you go soft to the rowdy LAWYERS whose main vocation is to give justice through a process of trial in court. What about the rampage and vandalism of the Jat stir in Haryana? They got the demand they were asking through sheer vandalism whereby they also posed great insecurity to the local population and the incident even threatened to spread across Western UP or Delhi. You should be better than naive to think that there is no design to the entire thing. It is as if such debates have been taking for the first time in the campus. But why now? You have to ask yourself.

  • Niranjan R

    Don’t dare to say South-Indians (read Bangalore) discriminate the North Indians. I’ve been witness to a lot of incidents where the us the Bangaloreans openly welcome anyone who is decent enough, no matter which Pan-Spitting part of India the people were. And I’ve seen many people from North India disrespecting the culture and tradition of the place, to which they came to earn bread and butter. Even after many of these kinda incidents, people from all over the country still wont have any problem to come to Bangalore. So stop saying that people discriminate because of you FOOD HABIT or your DRESS SENSE or how you do LOOK. There are many Manipuris, Biharis, UP walas, Kashmiris happily living in Bangalore.

    Stop creating sympathy for yourself!

  • Anil Bharali

    If Arnab Goswami is asked to speak against AFSPA, he will never be because he is from” Brahman- Banias” nexsus. and ANCHOR of Indian Politico-Business houses.

  • adutta_bea

    You crib about AFSPA and we crib about Zero police control. In my part of country (entire Hindi Heartland) rapes are common. Similarly other crimes are common as well. It’s a terrible situation when you know if something happens to you, you are on your own. I am a Punjabi living in a non-punjabi society and I don’t speak Punjabi. Technically, I cannot relate to any part of the country. So I am at a disadvantage in every part of the country. And all biases that you encounter, me too have to go through it.

    Yet, I love my country. I love every Manipuri, Bihari, Assamese, Marathi, Telugu, Kannadiga, Sardar I have met in my life. I practically love each and every kind of Indian and am proud of our diversity. And I firmly believe in the idea of India. The last civil war in America happened after 150 years of independence. So chill, things will take time to improve. If we stay together, we got a better chance of early success than without. Sadly, people like me do not always come out to proclaim our love for you and others. Because of the actions of a coward few, please do not generalise and seek separation.

    And trust me, as an Independent country, there would always be a threat of China one day producing a rare 18th century map of Manipur being Chinese territory and occupy you. There is no fun as well in living under the Chinese. A country like Pakistan that cannot provide for more than their elite punjabi class, will not be able to handle Kashmiris. Imagine Kashmiris living without Indian tourists and aid from India.

    I can understand your pain dear. But believe me, if there are few hundreds that hate you, there are million who love you as well in India.

    • monk

      so rightly said.. kudos

    • Ashish

      +1 to “Because of the actions of a coward few, please do not generalise and seek separation.”

      Those barbaric acts must be complained against and demonstrated against; let the military police take action against the culprits.

    • Pijush Banerjee

      Thanks for your try to clear the misunderstandings of the OP .It was very very good.

  • doctorjee

    My head hangs with shame

  • LogicalNetizen

    Dear Human Being what you said here is not all lies……….. there are some truth also. But you cleverly skip the treatment you give to the people from other Indian states even to your neighbors from Assam, Nagaland and your own clan Bishnupriya Manipuris, whom you kill, shoot, bomb blasts and douse in petrol in broad-day-light just to express your might. Brother Human Being Chinglen Kshetrimayum !!! If you want the withdrawal of AFSPA then you must stop killing innocent UP, Biharis, Assamese, Mizos, Kukis and Nagas and your own Manipuri people and improve law and order of your own state. The factional killings, road blockades, economic blockades, extortion. bomb blasts all are the day to day jobs done by your people only………. not Army. Due to the economic blockade by your own terrorist groups and villagers you are paying 4000 rupees for a single cylinder in Imphal when the actual cost is only 600 rupees (approx.), forget about other essential commodities that do not reach to you on time due the regular National Highway blockades by your own Manipuri people……… as a result there are large scale of exodus in other parts of India. You are earning handsome salary and living lavish life in Delhi, Bangalore, Mumbai, Gurgaon, Noida, Hyderabad and other Indian cities, working in Indian companies, studying in top universities & colleges on subsidies and scholarships and still do not want to mingle with local people and their culture and never ever identify yourselves with India and Indians. You proudly say “We are not Indian, We are manipuri” and feel proud to get along with Nigerians, Africans who most of the time exploits your womenfolks sexually. That’s the truth ! That’s the reality of you ! AFSPA is a draconian law, that should be repealed but before that you become human being…… don’t behave like animals. AND don’t dare to talk about Kashmir…. it was a integral part of India since thousands & thousands years ago and it will remain a part of India……….. just because the majority people are Muslim now…… we can not give it away to a rogue state called Pakistan. Remember one day your land will be infiltrated by Bangladeshi Muslims as well and they will be majority there then….would you give it away to them because they are majority???

    • be_sure

      Brother, there were no killings or those treatments until your lovely motherland forcibly encroached Manipur in you map! , n implemented AFSPA! Any idea how it all has started? Before you jot down the essay, know the history first.. Ur logic huh? where?

      • LogicalNetizen

        It seems you have all ideas and knowledge about history…….. and your logic is…….because of AFSPA your people are killing your own people and other North Eastern tribes e.g.; Kukis, Nagas, Bishnupriyas, Hindu Manipuris, Assamese, Bodos (forget about mainland Indians) and due to those killings when Nagas and Kukis block national highway, you face tremendous shortage of food grains and all essential commodities and lives like beggars without a proper meal. BTW then Army comes out from their tents and distribute relief materials to you to save you from starving to death. You so called superior white skinned lovely people (as mentioned by a fake Dr. Col. in this thread 🙂 ) do not understand that the day you will get your so called freedom from India that day will be your Dooms Day…… you’ll be further separated and divided into hundreds pieces by your own tribal people…….. Nagas will cut your state into pieces and merge them into Greater Nagaland where you Manipuris won’t find a place to live.

        • be_sure

          You still don’t get it what I have said. Because of your all this filthy thoughts only, still you don’t understand the root cause but trying to follow the practice what your successors did. Do you know anything about the history of Manipur? Learn some history and do comment. And please stop telling me about those army.. I know what they do in Manipur better than your little knowledge. Most indiscipline army. No doubt if they were your mates..

          • LogicalNetizen

            Are you a Manipuri…….. if not then shut your mouth and stop putting your skewed logic. Ask any true Manipuri “what is wrong going on in Manipur?” they will point out a finger at you first, forget about Army and mainland Indians. The irony is that you still lives in cocoons life. If army is doing wrong, if Indian administration, politicians are doing wrong then protest and fight them………. why terrorizing general people, why all these killings & racism???

          • be_sure

            You little rat r u a Manipuri? I saw you commenting in many sites and running like a rat after you can’t answer other comments.
            Don’t you know how many protest are still ongoing in Manipur and many propaganda in UN submit going on? You r trying try to deviate the main discussion point with your bloody little filthy knowledge. First you come n live in the place where AFSPA is enforced. N later comment here after one of your mother or sister is raped by your so called army. Idiot.

          • LogicalNetizen

            You tiny litch be sure that you are not a ISIS stooge. I saw you too commenting in many sites in favour of Islamic separatism and hiding your face with your white-masters photo. What are you litch upto? Wanna get freedom for Kashmir or Manipur??

        • be_sure

          A piece of knowledge for you.
          SuchindranathAiyer wrote:
          2 days ago
          This was a tradition set by Nehru’s goons in Manipur

          Manipur was a highly cultured “Special District” (Like Coorg) until 1947. It had the first written Constitution in the Sub Continent and was, arguably, even more cultured and Brahmanical than Mysore or Travancore. Nehru posted his Satrap there and began, with Ambedkar, his social engineering legislation which his Christian Satrap imposed with an iron hand while finding time away from his womanizing rape and plunder. Ever since, every family in Manipur has had at least one person under arms and underground. Just one small fractal of a nation in a perpetual civil war created by India’s founding “architects”. Notably, Ambedkar and Nehru. All of India’s seething unrest both kinetic and potential can be traced back to India’s grotesque “Animal Farm” Constitution and “Social Engineering” Laws that enforced a British day dream that Britain, itself, dare not have attempted in Britain, let alone India.. The violence under the surface of India, waiting to break out, is of massive proportions.

    • h4rj

      How can Kashmir be integral part of India since thousands of years ago. I am not engaging in the current Kashmir dispute, its economically better off in India, but the bloody fact that India was vague geographical region with many different sovereign kingdoms until 1947 makes a nonsense of your statement. Pakistan and India born in 1947 at the same time THANKS to the British. Pakistan people are the same as India people, they have roamed these lands since day one, thousands upon thousands of years. India can be the greatest nation on earth but there needs to be understanding, respect and equality first. Petty misconceptions and equally ridiculous religious and class disputesdivides are only holding India back. Education is the key. The army and police only reflect the indiscipline and flaws of the state so the power is with the electorate to fight the fear and have the courage to stand up and sweep the ills away through the ballott box.

      • Pijush Banerjee

        Kashmir was part of India as per the old concept of Bharatbarsha —during Buddha period /Gupta period and perhaps during Sashanka as well and again at the time of the Mughals. Historically even Gandhar was part of the greater India .Aftr the British left the then King of Kashmir had to join India when Pakistan made efforts to annexe his State by the deployment of forces.Though I must not gloat over the issue.

        And in that fine sense no place belongs to any country —- in very very ancient times there was no conception of any country /present religious sects n subsets n subsets of subsets ….These had been created not very long ago.

    • Pijush Banerjee

      Mostly right in your opinion.

  • cabalco

    We are a sick people.

  • Aridaman Jit Singh

    India has been ruined by these Big Mustache “Fauji Thugs” , Natives of Indian colony were enslaved and exploited by colonial rulers by the same mercenaries for two hundred years and pimps took over the control of these thugs from out going rulers and assumed the autocratic power. The so called elected representatives come to power and assume the autocratic power formation to themselves fleece the public of republic and continue the extortions to sustain this predatory governance apparatus. These bloody reactive political thugs are geniuses at inventing lies with their “Jumla Politics” and devoid of vision to tame these colonial dog squads, who wag their tales and ceremonially march on republic day in vulgar display of their assets and these thugs are brought to knees and put in tizzy by hand full spirited youth who decide to teach these thugs a lesson.

  • Subhash Talwar

    Dear Ms Chinglen Khshetrimayum,

    I happened to see your mail today. I like all other Indians feel anguished both for you as also your comments. Firstly, I entirely agree and accept your feelings and sentiments regarding alienation of people in the hilly regions from the mainland. It is also true that Indians in many States fail to see people from the hills equitably. The reason if I may dare to profess is the inferiority complex the mainland suffers from more emancipated, advanced, charming and daring people from the hilly regions. There is a saying that as one descends into the mainland, people are known to become selfish, corrupt and malicious. The people from hilly regions are simplistic, fair in dealings and honest to the hilt. So please give up on your feeling that people from mainland are powerful and strong. Now coming to removal of AFSPA, I think there are extreme contradictions not only within our country but one can see so much strife around the globe. I wish you would have seen how fanatic Islamists in ISIS behead people as if they had ventured into a vegetable garden. Things are not so simple to brand anyone good or bad. I wish you were my daughter and I could explain on a better platform. Good or bad, we continue to remain in the same boat. While I share your intense feelings, I also like to see you grow out of your misgivings. May God Bless you, my child!

    Dr Col SC Talwar

    • LogicalNetizen

      Dr Col SC Talwar………little knowledge is a dangerous thing Papa JI !!

      • Pijush Banerjee

        ???

    • Pijush Banerjee

      Thanks Dr S C Talwar for this suave reply to the post.
      It is alarming how divisive forces are gaining control to mislead some of the Indians albeit some of Indians may not understand the meaning of Unity in Diversity —- could be coz most of such people have no exposures to States beyond her him.But these are stray incidents.
      Among others the OP rued that in the National Anthem there is no mention of Manipur —and none of any other North Eastern States .I dnt think Rabindranath penned this with prescience that the song would become the NA —-neither he wrote Amar Sonar Bangla Ami tomaiy bhalobasi so that in future this would be adopted by Bangladesh as their NA.Apart from this in our NA there is no mention of new States like Telengana /Kerala /Karnataka /Bihar /……but mention is there of Sindhu perhaps Sind —which is now in Pakistan .In that case NA is to be redrafted off and on when a new State is born. But Manipur /Tripura had been made famos in his stories or poems.
      As a Bengali we also feel sometimes alienated as some of us are not that much accustomed to imposed Hindi —-also I wonder why Roman Alphabets have not been introduced thru out India for writing so that at leat 10% + linguistic problem could be solved .In Bengal in Banks /Insurance + there are only two options in documentation —-Hindi and English making it difficult for ordinary people to understand the contents .
      But I may not complain as in that case all of Indian languages are to be incorporated.
      The OP thinks why not Manipur n Kashmir breakaway from India .Good point to ponder over —-but extremely bad for nurturing the idea.Can Manipur be able to protect his her sovereignty once out of India? Would it not have to join any nearby country for sustenance or rather become a pawn of other country against India? The same question is for Kashmir .Is POK is in far better condition than present JK ? May be but mostly not .The division of India on the basis of Religion /Language. …..will not augur well if we learn by extrapolating the current as well as past situations.
      Again thanks for your beautiful comments .

  • Sachin Bangalore

    There can be issues and problems in every country.. but it can’t be taken as excuse to talk like a separatist.. Those who are in payroll of Anti-India forces has nothing to do with AFSPA, they just spread falsehood in the name of freedom of speech and try to break India..They are being brainwashed by petty people on petty issues.. I agree there was less focus on Manipur or let say on entire North-East for that matter. But now we have a Home Minister(state) from Arunanchal Pradesh..We have to think as a whole, as a country, as a state, then only we can tackle our local issues and can give better life to the people..

  • Sachin Bangalore

    This page is managed by AAptards and all the issues and articles are highly biased and spreading false propaganda..

  • LogicalNetizen

    Dear Human Being what you said here is not all lies……….. there are some truth also. But you cleverly skip the treatment you give to the people from other Indian states even to your neighbors from Assam, Nagaland and your own clan Bishnupriya Manipuris, whom you kill, shoot, bomb blasts and douse in petrol in broad-day-light just to express your might. Brother Human Being Chinglen Kshetrimayum !!! If you want the withdrawal of AFSPA then you must stop killing innocent UP, Biharis, Assamese, Mizos, Kukis and Nagas and your own Manipuri people and improve law and order of your own state. The factional killings, road blockades, economic blockades, extortion. bomb blasts all are the day to day jobs done by your people only………. not Army. Due to the economic blockade by your own terrorist groups and villagers you are paying 4000 rupees for a single cylinder in Imphal when the actual cost is only 600 rupees (approx.), forget about other essential commodities that do not reach to you on time due the regular National Highway blockades by your own Manipuri people……… as a result there are large scale of exodus in other parts of India. You are earning handsome salary and living lavish life in Delhi, Bangalore, Mumbai, Gurgaon, Noida, Hyderabad and other Indian cities, working in Indian companies, studying in top universities & colleges on subsidies and scholarships and still do not want to mingle with local people and their culture and never ever identify yourselves with India and Indians. You proudly say “We are not Indian, We are manipuri” and feel proud to get along with Nigerians, Africans who most of the time exploits your womenfolks sexually. That’s the truth ! That’s the reality of you ! AFSPA is a draconian law, that should be repealed but before that you become human being…… don’t behave like animals. AND don’t dare to talk about Kashmir…. it was a integral part of India since thousands & thousands years ago and it will remain a part of India……….. just because the majority people are Muslim now…… we can not give it away to a rogue state called Pakistan. Remember one day your land will be infiltrated by Bangladeshi Muslims as well and they will be majority there then….would you give it away to them because they are majority??? You so called superior people (as they love to think about them:) ) do not understand that the day you will get your so called freedom from India that day will be your Dooms Day…… you’ll be further separated and divided into hundreds pieces by your own tribal people…….. Nagas will cut your state into pieces and merge them into Greater Nagaland, and Burma & China is waiting in the borders where you Manipuris won’t find a place to live.

  • LogicalNetizen

    To know the reality of Racism inNorth East India read this article by a North Easterner tribal woman Journalist & newspaper editor….. http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/politics-of-identity-and-location/article5948473.ece

  • LogicalNetizen
  • Pijush Banerjee

    Gone thru the article with much pain and anguish.Apart from AFSPA that to my humility ,of which I do not have knowledge on its use as a repression weapon , other things bear no meaning .

    The name of many a States are not mentioned in the National Anthem as Rabindranath did not pen this with the knowledge that this the NA of India and even then mention of all of the States current and would be would have made the song a cumbersome one —-and to that extent he also did not write Amar Sonar Bangla Ami tomaiy bhalobasi with the foreknowledge that this would become the NA of another country viz Bangladesh. Rather in our NA mention is there of Sindhu perhaps Sind – – a landmass now in Pakistan. May be US has a system to add a star in their National Flag as n when a state is created —-I have no know how on the NA of other countries —-whether these are criticized by their country men —so I must not tread in to the depth of our NA as contested in the OP though I understand that there are murmurs among some to change the NA.Incidentally there are extreme reservation from a particular religious community to accept Vande Mataram as the NA and I am not sure if there would be major consensus on the adoption of a new NA —- also there is no guarantee that that new NA would reign for a good number of years .

    I understand that there are internal troubles in Manipur (as in every other States in large scale or small! ).But their special troubles lie with the two sects —- one such is the Bishnupriyas (I thought this to be a Bengali sect ! But not.)Also they do appear to nurture sort of enmity with people of near by States including Nagaland. Also most NE people has certain disliking on the people of other parts of India ——in Calcutta hospitals their Nursing staff would not talk in Bengali and most of then even do not understand English though I thought they should be .Excepting people of Assam /Meghalaya /Tripura others do suffer from self created alienation—-seldom try to mix with people other than belonging to their linguistic group ++ that appears to be awkward to me.They may cite empathy of the rest of India —but that might not be true. In Bengal I have not detected any empathy towards others —-though once upon a time all of North Indians were Khotta and all of South Indians were South Indians,( all who keep beards and have turbans are Punjabis though some of the residents in Punjab do not put turbans, ) to us —- but that was a past story .Even now a matter is before the SC (or Delhi HighCourt ?) to decide whether certain jokes should be treated as racist/defamatory against the people of certain North Western state is pending.

    It is not that I support these —-but these happenings are not basically based on any empathy —as people of other States including belonging to NE apparently sort of empathy towards us the Bengalis as we eat fish ,perceived to be Communists or Naxalites ,do not have industries in our State…….

    When I say we have freedom of speech I must say that we may not say anything derogatory against anything /against anybody unless that can be established in law.I have right to play music — but I do not have the right to raise the volume to the extent of disturbing others (though political parties often do these nuisance !)

    The hanging of Afzal Guru has been questioned —- but without substantiating evidences. Hanging perhaps is the extreme punishment as were given to Azmal Kasav, Dhananjoy Bhattacharyya (Chakraborti ? in a rape case )++++.As per govt version Afzal was one of the terrorists that attacked Parliament that killed several guards and it is strange that if the attack was allowed to continue to some of the Parliamentarians joining in chorus in criticising the govt and SC could have died in the action of the attackers —-incidentally Mr PCHIDAMBARAM was the home minister at least when Afzal asked for clemency before the President though now he says in other tone . Even now ,there is scope of reviewing the case of Afzal in a designated court so that Afzal may get another trial to get the Martyr tag posthumously.

    Healthy debate is one thing —and spreading anti nation remarks is another thing albeit many may contest on the nature of a healthy debate .I had the misconception that one may say whatever she he likes insides the Parliament /State Assemblies —- but Smriti Irani recently been rebuked in the Parl when she quoted one said to be anti Hindu poster reported to have been found in JNU (?) months or years back.So it appears that there are certain limitations on the freedom of speech in the Constitution that was framed among other by Dr Amberkar himself or revised in the Parl. I think accusing person/persons “Dog” is not good though one of the ministers who happened to have been a Sr Army personnel reportedly use the word Dog while describing one of his disliked matters.

    I am an old man —parents had refugee status and as such might have nourished special empathy to a specific religious group —-but I have none.I believe in Humanism. And yes though I am a citizen of the Universe ,like to honor the majority accepted customs of the country where I live in —–where I got education /livelihood in whatever quantity ……..and till now India is my country with all her plus and minus points.

  • Gozmuz

    when everything is running fine, they hae created a presence on facebook with photos of women protesting that are more than decades old. The incident that led to women protesting took place so long ago, when neither Major Bakshi nor Arnab was doing the rounds of our social consciousness. THings are so much better now, but certain vested interests are propping these things up. May be they want the days of troubles and do not want their own progress and hence India’s progress.

  • Gozmuz

    These people hae no sense of what it means to progress, just want some heroic romanticism in the name of separation. You fools, look at all the deeloped places in the world, they hae developed not because of isolation or because they decried their own country. They developed because they assimilated people from all over the world. Manipuri separatists do not een want to assimilate with people from their own country, then how can they ever dream of being developed and prosperous.

    Nationhood means one for all and all for one, this very concept of nationhood seems to be lost on manipuri meiti separatists. They want freedom just because they are facing everyday issues like we all do, but they are special, they want freedom for this.

  • Gozmuz

    You fools are showing one r-ape from more than ten yrs ago and asking freedom ? Since those ten years we hae had much more r-apes in west bengal, bihar, UP, Delhi… so be cool and stay in the queue. Let first Delhi, UP, Bihar get freedom from India. Your number will come. have patience.

  • karthik

    When I was in a hotel in manipur they called me a mayang macha a racist word used by them to differentiate those who do not belong to manipur.One day when I was sitting silently one Manipuri came and slapped me without anything.After that around10 Manipuri surrounds me and started laughing at me.they thrased me in the hostel no help from anyone as I was the only from north India.I even don’t told this matter to my parents.That is what Manipur is

  • Rathiraj

    Chinglen, you are as much an Indian as me brother. Differences and difficulties are everywhere for everyone and we must join hands to win over all.